Current video watch online. Пистолет gm 102


Gm-102 vs GP T11/T12

UD2 15-11-2016 12:07

Наигрался в GP...Вопрос тем, кто сравнивал: есть ли смысл покупать GM-102 после современного Grand Power? Кучнее ли он с 15 метров?Или GP самое кучное из резинострелов на сегодняшний день?

Ivani4 15-11-2016 13:03

А Р226?

UD2 15-11-2016 17:31quote:Изначально написано Ivani4:А Р226?

Утыкания, сомнительная кучность по сравнению с GP и, хоть и крайне редкие, но застревания современных Фортуновских 2,04гр. шаров... пройденный этап.

Ivani4 15-11-2016 19:17

Тогда лучше купить словацкий Т12.

Andyfour 15-11-2016 20:40

Чисто ИМХО (как использующего GM)- Его есть смысл покупать, если используемый РЕГУЛЯРНО КС - Glock. В других случаях он несоизмеримо дорог, последняя генерация НЕ ПОЗВОЛЯЕТ использовать дореформу - гильзу раздувает при первом же выстреле из-за не строго патронника...По теме сабжа - на 15м нет проблем с точностью и кучей, от Т12 точно нет отличий.

UD2 15-11-2016 20:40

Положа руку нáсердце, на современных 10х28 разницы между Словаком и ЗиДом/Фортуной не вижу.

По этой причине и заинтересовала информация по глокообразному. Особенно, если он превосходит по куче ГП.

Есть у кого мишени отстрела с 15 метров?

DENI 15-11-2016 23:01quote:Originally posted by UD2:Особенно, если он превосходит по куче ГП.а кто сказал что он превосходит?Более того, пистолет не очень то и надежный.palar 15-11-2016 23:27

Позвольте и мне сказать:

В части кучности и точности - по моему опыту кучнее и точнее Т12 (причина - ствол GM102 -> 4!!!! (четыре) штифта)

В части надежности - на днях сделал полную разборку GM102 (аналогично делал и с GP T12 словак), все по Глоковски просто, но вот горка патронника и патронник - узкое место GM102 при плохой вальцовке патронов. Все остальные детали работают штатно и надежно (натсрел более 8 тыс)

Полностью согласен с AndyFour - если выступаете на матчах с Glock 17, то GM 102 - правильный выбор.

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DENI 15-11-2016 23:29quote:Originally posted by palar:Позвольте и мне сказать:Тебе и надо как раз говорить.Только слишком узко:quote:Originally posted by palar:выступаете на матчах с Glock 17Andyfour более правильно написал:quote:Originally posted by Andyfour:Его есть смысл покупать, если используемый РЕГУЛЯРНО КС - Glock.palar 15-11-2016 23:46quote:Originally posted by DENI:Тебе и надо как раз говорить

Когда приобретал пистолеты исходил из следующих соображений:

Стрелял ранее на матчах из К100, посему и приобрел Т12, различия минимальны, но все же они были

С GM102 "совсем другая песня":- разгонный участок уменьшен (по сравнению с тем же Т12) за счет наличия штифтов (два из которых расположены последовательно друг за другом в сторону дульного среза). Соответственно и различие в кучности на дистанции 20-25 метров, на 12-15 метрах сравнимо с Т12- стреляю gen4, а у GM102 - рамка gen3- затвор на GM102 легче да и геометрия отличается от Glock17, но ГМ обещал учесть это замечание в последующем.- необходимо отметить, что Glock17 легкий пистолет и не прощает ошибок, GM102 на текущих патронах (да и на дореформе) не особо поможет стрелку работать на упражнениях с эффектом отдачи (например на ПМТ "лягается " даже сильнее чем на ПМ)

С уважениемАлексей

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